From Stand to Reason

“What worldview makes the best sense of things like math? Certainly not materialism. Our worldview though, a worldview that entails both physical things and immaterial things, immaterial things that can be grounded in an intelligent, rational, reasonable God, that can make sense of things like math.”

I agree with his basic argument that math makes more sense in a theistic worldview. I also believe that there is actually a stronger argument that he can draw from rather than his apples example. There was an entire age of mathematics where mathematicians sought to eliminate any postulate (assumption) about mathematics and prove everything logically. Then Gödel came along and blew that ship out of the water (in part due to his Christian convictions). I talk about this significantly during the first unit of Geometry – mathematics is grounded on faith in something, it can’t stand by itself.

Snippet from perrymarshall.com:

**Gödel’s Incompleteness Theorem: **

**The #1 Mathematical Discovery of the 20th Century**

In 1931, the young mathematician Kurt Gödel made a landmark discovery, as powerful as anything Albert Einstein developed. Gödel’s discovery not only applied to mathematics but literally all branches of science, logic and human knowledge. It has truly earth-shattering implications. Oddly, few people know anything about it. Allow me to tell you the story.

Mathematicians love proofs. They were hot and bothered for centuries, because they were unable to PROVE some of the things they knew were true. So for example if you studied high school Geometry, you’ve done the exercises where you prove all kinds of things about triangles based on a list of theorems. That high school geometry book is built on Euclid’s five postulates. Everyone knows the postulates are true, but in 2500 years nobody’s figured out a way to prove them. Yes, it does seem perfectly reasonable that a line can be extended infinitely in both directions, but no one has been able to PROVE that. We can only demonstrate that they are a reasonable, and in fact necessary, set of 5 assumptions.

Towering mathematical geniuses were frustrated for 2000+ years because they couldn’t prove all their theorems. There were many things that were “obviously” true but nobody could figure out a way to prove them.

In the early 1900′s, however, a tremendous sense of optimism began to grow in mathematical circles. The most brilliant mathematicians in the world (like Bertrand Russell, David Hilbert and Ludwig Wittgenstein) were convinced that they were rapidly closing in on a final synthesis. A unifying “Theory of Everything” that would finally nail down all the loose ends. Mathematics would be complete, bulletproof, airtight, triumphant.

In 1931 this young Austrian mathematician, Kurt Gödel, published a paper that once and for all PROVED that a single Theory Of Everything is actually impossible.

Gödel’s discovery was called “The Incompleteness Theorem.”

** ****Gödel’s Incompleteness Theorem says:**

**“Anything you can draw a circle around cannot explain itself without referring to something outside the circle – something you have to assume but cannot prove.”**

You can draw a circle around all of the concepts in your high school geometry book. But they’re all built on Euclid’s 5 postulates which are clearly true but cannot be proven. Those 5 postulates are outside the book, outside the circle. You can draw a circle around a bicycle but the existence of that bicycle relies on a factory that is outside that circle. The bicycle cannot explain itself.

**Gödel proved that there are ALWAYS more things that are true than you can prove. **Any system of logic or numbers that mathematicians ever came up with will __always__ rest on at least a few unprovable assumptions.

Gödel’s Incompleteness Theorem applies not just to math, but to *everything* that is subject to the laws of logic. Incompleteness is true in math; it’s equally true in science or language or philosophy. And: If the universe is mathematical and logical, Incompleteness also applies to the __universe__.

Gödel created his proof by starting with “The Liar’s Paradox” — which is the statement

**“I am lying.”**

“I am lying” is self-contradictory, since if it’s true, I’m not a liar, and it’s false; and if it’s false, I am a liar, so it’s true. So Gödel, in one of the most ingenious moves in the history of math, converted the Liar’s Paradox into a mathematical formula. He proved that any statement requires an external observer. No statement alone can completely prove itself true.

His Incompleteness Theorem was a devastating blow to the “positivism” of the time. Gödel proved his theorem in black and white and nobody could argue with his logic.

Yet some of his fellow mathematicians went to their graves in denial, believing that somehow or another Gödel must surely be wrong.

He wasn’t wrong. It was really true. There are more things than are true than you can prove. A “theory of everything” – whether in math, or physics, or philosophy – will never be found because it is impossible.

So what does this really mean? Why is this important?

**Faith and Reason are not enemies.**

In fact, the exact opposite is true! One is absolutely necessary for the other to exist. All reasoning ultimately traces back to faith in something that you *cannot prove.*